... swinging a golf club, don't know how to bunker shot, to eventually, you know, you know, world-class, best in the world players and everything in between.

Yeah.

Um, great question.

So I would say this from the outset, I have been playing and competing for a long period of time.

Before I arrived at Carolina Country Club, I had great professional tenures at Augusta National, the country club i- in Brookline just outside of Boston, um, the Maidstone Club in Jupiter Hills, so fortunately just around a lot of great, uh, mentors.

Um, I've always been a student of the game.

In those days we didn't have access to the technology that a lot of young coaches have now.

Yeah