And that was something that I always admired with Phillip.

Yeah, a hundred percent.

And that's like that, that what you're talking about too, it just kind of, I don't know if the conversation is taking a turn.

It should or shouldn't, but this, what you're talking about is process orientation and it shows itself in different ways.

Cause if you're process oriented, you're just going to say, okay, the best thing for my development, if my goal is to improve over the longterm, which is what a process oriented person does.

They play that infinite game as Simon Sinek would describe it.

They're going to lock in on those games where they're not supposed to do anything and win because they know like, hey, this is going to be the biggest test for me.

You got a recommendation to show us out the door here?