... what have been the most detrimental side effects and secondary effects of this Kelp DAO hack?

[sighs] So I think that obviously this was a huge eye-opener for a lot of teams in this space.

Uh, I think there are some people who are... perhaps should be more scared [laughs] and hardening their systems that aren't, like other bridges, and basically anyone who is, uh, let's say, like reconciling on-chain and off-chain data, especially via like RPCs.

Um, because, like, I don't know.

There's just...

Yeah, so one angle is that.

Let's just stop there, okay? So, like, one angle is, like, how do we prevent this from happening again? What is DPRK doing here? How do they, [laughs] like, you know, leap ahead? Uh, and how do we make sure this doesn't happen again? Obviously, another one is just risk management with these, uh, lending protocols.

How can we actually address these issues? What can realistically be done to stop this?

But then you get this.

Yes.

Then you get this.

And I don't know.

Maybe I'll put it like this.

I think I was moderately optimistic that the changes that we've seen are deep enough to really hold.

But I do think that there was some amount of... let's say experimentation where like the M'lady PFP, right.

Are you really going to tell me that that doesn't matter?