In your opinion, what internal factors do you think play a role for first-generation women, specifically ambitious women, when there are in those corporate spaces and there are things limiting their progression?

Yeah, so it almost is not enough to think that being in the corporate system is going to cure some of the things that you've faced in your life before.

The corporate system will expose all of your insecurities, trauma and beliefs.

And if you don't know that yet, you are going to figure that out the hard way.

Trust me, when I was sitting in with my therapist in COVID, I was like, oh my God, that comes from my mum.

That comes from how my nan raised me.

You know, if you're raised in families... where you are raised by immigrants, where you are raised in a scarcity mindset, where you are taught to be grateful, where you are taught to be humble, where you are taught to keep your head down, where you are taught not to make a fuss, where you are taught not to draw attention to yourself.

As someone who has been on the other side of the table, What are companies actually looking for when they're deciding who gets promoted or who gets hired? Could we unpack that a bit?