Tark, do you have any thoughts for us, brother? What, um, what, what do you think about this, this, this thing that's sort of saying that we're, we're-- Our, our definition of God is different, therefore we can't be talking about the same thing.

Latter-day Saints and Catholics clearly have different conceptions of God.

I don't think anyone would really challenge that one, right? I mean, just very easily.

Even if you have a somewhat very close class- to classical view of God, like some Latter-day Saints, like Blake Ostler had, and, uh, Joe and I agree on this, has a very close to classical view of God.

Okay, even if you went with Blake's view, let's say that somehow there was a revelation, and the church said that view was right.

Won't happen, but let's say it, it did.

Well, it still wouldn't be the same concept because Blake's God still creates out of preexisting matter, and the God of C- Catholicism doesn't do that.

What do you make of that?