And for anyone that doesn't know, give me a little overview of what Vumi is.

So, I guess Vumi is a love child of me and Barry, um, but it literally just stemmed from, put it this way, I never set out to be a business owner.

I was actually studying at university to become a psychologist.

I was doing law.

I wasn't sure which direction I was gonna go into, but I was going down the clinical path of becoming a clinical psychologist.

Um, and obviously having grown up with ADHD, I was never medicated.

Um, but then, yeah, post-uni, I was basically in the kitchen with my housemate at the time, and basically she had to ask me 10 times.

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