Um, so as an apprentice, was that a fun time for you, or was it a stressful time or a bit of both?

It was definitely a bit of both.

It was a hectic learning curve for me going from Mana Pools into like a photographic where the animals are very habituated.

So it was a, a massive learning curve, but I think growing up hunting, and I had had a lot of hunting experience even in, you know, doing a lot of ration hunts and stuff up until that time.

So following instructions is not a problem.

You know, when, when I first got into it, my dad always said to me, "If somebody says, 'Can you do this? Can you weld? Can you, can you fix a boat motor? Can you do this?' Just say yes, and then figure it out along the way." And that was a huge thing because obviously being a girl, you know, when I went for my interview, it was, "Can you carry a whole impala? Can you change a tire? What are you gonna do while the men are all changing? What are you gonna..." Da, da, da.

So it was, I think maybe uncharted territory for them.

With buffalo, um, have you ever had a situation where it got a bit hairy as well?