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Absolutely.

I mean, I don't even like to drive in the snow, so I'm Johnny driving in the snow, like completely terrified, except I don't know how to put on snow chains.

At least he knows how to do that.

[laughs] So in, in the script version, there was hardly any of Maiselle's story.

You get one vision of her on a movie set, and you see a humiliating thing that happens to her on this movie set, and you get it.

You know, a screenplay is kind of like a shorthand, so I, I, it's one scene.

[laughs] Yeah, yeah.

Well,

I don't know.

I haven't heard that that rumor.

So I can't I can't.

And I'm not just saying that because this is a Marvel interview, but I literally haven't heard that rumor.

But I can tell you that if my husband Steve were here, he would be very excited to think that's true.

I just he just had a long conversation with me about why he feels that way.

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What is your definition of Black horror? What makes it different than other types of ways in which Black people show up in the genre of horror itself?

That is a great question, and not everyone will agree with my answer.

You know, I teach a Black horror class at UCLA called The Sunken Place, right? So sometimes...

Black horror just means a horror movie that has black representation, like, say, Night of the Living Dead.

where Dwayne Jones plays Ben, you know, and it must've been shocking in the 60s to have a black protagonist.

I'm sure the audiences were as scared of him as they were of the zombies, right? So George Romero is not a black filmmaker, and Forever was saying that was accidental casting, but I definitely do consider that black horror.

And one of the reasons is not just because of the representation, but because of the weight of the representation.

Right,