But w- what about you? Kinda like when you look at your units, you know, or when you look at kind of what you worked on, what do you want them to see or know?

I would say my overall takeaways for slavery itself is that it's the foundation of this country, not just for racial beliefs and the way we are socially segregated, I guess you can say, but also for the economic growth of the country.

And I probably wouldn't be too far off if I said Europe and the world at that time I really was central to the development of growth.

Being in New York, I also focused the kids on what was New York's role in this? What was the complicity? Why were we profiting so much off of something that we claim was only happening in the South? And, you know, those two things I really try to help them see.

And the last thing I also wanna focus on is the resistance.

Um, a lot of times they're like, "Oh, you know, all of this was happening to them, and they didn't do anything about it." And we had to talk about the ways in which people resist.

And when we go through each of our units and, like say, when we get to World War II, 'cause you did mention, um, the Holocaust, and people will say, "Well, why didn't they just, you know...

... to kinda talk about, you know, um, d- Black depictions in media, and what is the 13th Amendment, and, um, you know, how does it feed into the prison industrial complex? But it lets us have those conversations because we talk about the 14th Amendment and, you know, voting rights bills and what makes a citizen and how it all still kinda had to end on this abolishment of slavery and how we were ill-prepared as a country to kind of handle that.