Right.

And then the generations that came afterwards didn't know anyth- I mean, like you say, you were an alien to, to them.

Uh, and I think on one hand there's, there are a lot of people who were raised very secular and are looking for some connection to the tradition or to s- Jewish spirituality.

Uh, and on the other hand, there are a lot of people who were raised religious, and they feel like this frame is too narrow for them or, you know, doesn't let them express themselves the way they would like to.

And both of these people are looking for, I don't know, a, a broader spectrum maybe of how it is possible to be Jewish.

For me also as a gay person, it, it was, uh, you know, it's super nice to go into a Jewish space of prayer that allows me to be openly gay, but sometimes I also felt like these places are based more on tradition rather than spirituality.

I think now, you know, as we speak, I realize this is maybe what I was lacking in these spaces.

In, in the, in the world after October 7th, in the Israel after October 7th, d- does it feel that Zamru is filling a particular need?