What would you say success looks like for you these days? And do you think like maybe your definition has changed over time or maybe just from your time at Misfit? Maybe it changed a little bit?

Yeah, my definition of success has definitely changed.

I think I realized that my definition of success was really used to be rooted in external validation.

You know, growing up a competitive dancer, you're kind of trained to get a good score and that's what makes you good.

Of course, yeah.

I'm honestly still figuring this out for myself because if I could live a life where I was creating my art and I was able to perform and I was able to you know connect with people who needed to hear what I had to say and, you know, not have to worry about paying my bills.

It's like, that would be pretty cool.

Time.