... are thinking about one or both of those things in their own practices.

Yeah, absolutely.

So when it came to psychedelic-assisted therapy, I first heard about it in, let's see here.

I think it was my spring semester of my last year of the program, and I actually attended the Psychedelic Science Conference in summer 2023.

And so the conference is biannually.

It is so fun to be there to learn, you know, what's going on in the field.

And sitting in those presentations, I was learning these different modalities, how these psychedelic medicines were helping people with complex trauma, PTSD, and there was just something within me that I was like, "Wait a minute.

It's visceral.