How much do you feel like that environment shaped the woman you are today?

Uh, it shaped me in a big way.

Before being in the industry bartending, um, hostessing, uh, waitressing, then I owned a nightclub, partly owned a nightclub in Harlem, uh, while I was on the show on Love & Hip Hop.

Uh, before that, I graduated college, got a college degree in criminal justice, was supposed to roll into the academy.

I was a little...

I was a tad bit, uh, uh, shy, and I would say that being in that industry, um, I bartended in strip clubs.

Like, being in that world didn't seem dark at the time.

Yeah.

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You know what I call the DMs? It's like, I call social media Amazon for hoes.

Like, you...

It's so easy to connect now.

Like, there's no longer s- any type of, like, human transac- It's literally, "I like your pictures." I had to learn, because, you know, I'm not a, I'm not a youngin.

So it's like-

I wanna think the rappers showed us a world that we wanted to belong and be a part of.

It's like watching videos.