But for those who have ideas and they don't know necessarily how to present them to the right people or where to go, um, maybe you could share some of your insight in terms of best practices for collaborating with industry.

Yeah.

There's a lot of different great examples, right? I mean, you're the perfect, you know, kind of example of that, Adam, right? We have regular conversations, and I think this is, this is what I, I hope every listener is kind of, kinda understands.

Like we are truly your science partners.

We wanna be collaborators, and we too have the same level of scientific curiosity in how mechanisms of diseases work and, and also the mechanism of action from the actual therapeutic side too.

So what I see a lot of times is, you know, uh, exactly like you said, you know, small case series or case reports that could be written up, but, you know, the resident or maybe, you know, uh, a very busy practitioner, it's like, "Hey, you know what? It's a good learning for me, um, but I don't really wanna put it out there.

It's just too much work." But that could then lead to all of your peers, right? Being like, "Hey, you know what? I had a similar case of this, and I didn't know what to do.

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But for those who have ideas and they don't know necessarily how to present them to the right people or where to go, um, maybe you could share some of your insight in terms of best practices for collaborating with industry.

Yeah.

There's a lot of different great examples, right? I mean, you're the perfect, you know, kind of example of that, Adam, right? We have regular conversations, and I think this is, this is what I, I hope every listener is kinda, kinda understands, like we are truly your science partners.

We wanna be collaborators, and we too have the same level of scientific curiosity in how mechanisms of diseases work and, and also the mechanism of action from the actual therapeutic side too.

So what I see a lot of times is, you know, uh, exactly like you said, you know, small case series or case reports that could be written up, but, you know, the resident or maybe, you know, uh, a very busy practitioner, it's like, "Hey, you know what? It's a good learning for me, um, but I don't really wanna put it out there.

It's just too much work." But that could then lead to all of your peers, right? Being like, "Hey, you know what? I had a similar case of this, and I didn't know what to do.

Your case series helped me use the right therapy or at least try out something new that I haven't done before." And a lot of times that get caught from the industry side.

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