But before we get to that Supreme Court judgment and the changing of the Rotary history, can you take us back to Duarte in the 70s? How did you become interested in the club in the first place? And what sort of club was it?

Duarte is a little town, a little town not far from Pasadena.

Most people don't know where Duarte is, but most people know where Pasadena is because of the Rose Parade comes in there.

And Duarte is about maybe a 20 mile drive.

from Pasadena.

I was working in Duarte as a school principal, and I went to see our district superintendent because I wanted to find out what the district was like.

And when I went in to talk to Richard Keith, he said, you don't need to worry about this district because we have a Rotary Club here.

So it was a year you were involved, kind of undercover?