So if the congressman is right, and indeed he is, we've been here before, why does it feel so ugly?

Well, you know, first of all, isn't it amazing to be able to get a history lesson from Representative Clyburn, someone who not only knows it but has lived it and is able to articulate it in a way that's tangible and digestible and reminds you how important each of these fights are.

It feels so fragile because I think for many of us, this is the first time we have actually felt and seen rights being taken away from us, which we had taken for granted.

It started with the Dobbs decision.

I mean, that was a constitutional right that now seems to be gone and all aspects of someone's healthcare are hanging in the thread.

It also seems so fragile now Because this country has gotten far more divisive, far more hateful.

We have an administration that's really running on deceit and delusion.

And that means what to black folk in particular?

And I'm curious if you think as this influx of Republican cash starts to come in, how that might counteract what the gains that you guys have been making lately.

Well, I just want to say all of that that we heard, their platform is actually running away from all of the ways they have hurt the American people.

Their platform is to run away from the truth.

They were the ones that passed the one ugly bill that is cutting your health care.

They are the ones that.

cannot seem to tell their president to get us out of the war.

They are the ones that refuse to have town halls to talk about why the price of gas and groceries are going up, not just in my district, but in their district.

But your reaction to this latest rationale for an arch nobody seems to want but him.

What do you think?

Well, look, we're...

Well, we're, A, we're focused on winning in November and taking back the majority so that we can have the power of the purse and the power of the gavel.

The power of the gavel will allow us to hold this administration accountable, and obviously, the power of the purse is gonna be about making America more affordable.

And well, you know what? He's got it right.

As Congress, the budget is our responsibility.

So obviously, you know, then Speaker Jeffries, I'm gonna claim it, will be talking along with the leader of the Senate, uh, to the president to tr- try to figure out how they can get a budget that will be passed.

Is the re- the result or goal of dragging into [hands clap] committee and the exposure of the issues you talk about, is the goal impeachment or something else?

But how do you get that message to low-information voters?

Well, he's also very successful at broken promises.

And so what we have to continue to do is remind voters, low information and otherwise, about this guy is all about false hope.

Because remember, he said you were going to get a check after Doge.

You were going to get a tariff refund.

Who got the tariff refund? Just big businesses.

He was talking about Air Force One and giving somebody some checks on that.

What does that say to you about this political environment going into the next few weeks? And what opportunity does it afford Democrats to have the conversation with Republicans like myself, independent voters and others to say, you know what, we can do better than this?

Is something wrong with him?

Yes.

You know, this is a president who is pathological, uh, but he's also divisive, deceitful, and delusional, right? Um, divisive, last night, I, w- I don't understand what the culture wars have to do with the fact that gas in my district it is $8.

So why he and these other speakers needed to bring up culture stuff makes no sense to me.

He is deceitful because he is lying about the fact that we are in an affordability crisis right now because of him, and he is lying about 9/11.

And then he is delusional because he just makes up his own reality because he is out of touch with the reality of the American people.

I still remember where I was when 9/11 hit.

Yeah.

And what say you? It's not even running again.

He's not even running again.

And it's like whales or propaganda? Whales or democracy? I think you can have a both and.

You said it, have me explain it.

I can't explain that because that's not how you do.

And let me tell you something.

We have caucus every week and we have the ranking member of rules where all of this stuff goes through, James McGovern.

So what does that mean?

And what say you? He's not even running again.

He's not even running again.

And it's like whales or propaganda? Whales or democracy? I think you can have a both and.

You said it, have me explain it.

I can't explain that because that's not how you do.

And let me tell you something.

We have caucus every week and we have the ranking member of rules where all of this stuff goes through, James McGovern.

So what does that mean?

Yeah.

You know, here you have the son of the president, uh, who decided to join this firm right after his dad was elected, and they went from managing a few hundred million dollars in funds to $3 billion.

And they seem to be able to decide, uh, what to invest in right either before or after a major new change in policy or a new regulation comes to town.

And we just think it's suspicious.

It certainly is akin to insider trading.

And in fact, we have asked Don Jr. to come before us in Judiciary, and Republicans don't want him to show up, and he seems to be hiding because he doesn't wanna show up.

And I believe that if you have nothing to hide, you have everything to share, and he should come before House Judiciary Democrats and Republicans and explain his degree of clairvoyance to the American people.

Take the congressman.

So how would the House use its investigative powers if it takes back the House in January 2027?

Well, so one of the things that I've done is I've introduced articles of impeachment on Russell Vogt, the architect of Project 2025.

This is a guy who is essentially disrespected and marginalized the authority of the American people.

Congress is the voice of the American people.

And Russell Vogt says that Congress and that the American people are a mere suggestion.

That is why he's terminated thousands of federal workers.

He dismantled USAID.

Is Trump's selling point there on this war? Is that working with your constituents?

Just shut up.

You do wanna say that each and every day.

Stay awake and shut up or go someplace and go to sleep.

Um, this is a guy who is spending a billion dollars of our taxpayer dollars a day fighting a war that's unnecessary.

The Strait of Hormuz was open before this clown decided to get involved in this, right? Um, and so those dollars are not helping us get healthcare.

They are not helping us take care of our families and feed our families.

The reflecting pool we've talked about, right? The ballroom we've talked about, the changing the Department of Defense to Department of War, all of these things, the whole putting your name on the Kennedy Center, all of that stuff costs money, and it's money that the American people actually want to help their gas and grocery prices go down.

What, what should we be knowing? 'Cause it's just not getting the attention it, it deserves.

Your thoughts on that, Congresswoman?

Well, I have to say, Black women are living rent-free in Donald Trump's head every single day.

If he actually cared about the economy, if he cared about the financial situation of Americans, and he has said repeatedly that he doesn't, then he would work tirelessly to end this unnecessary and unlawful war.

The war in Iran, the closure of the Straits of Hormuz.

Remember, before this war, that strait was open.

he is responsible for the cratering of our economy and he has zero answers to this issue and he refuses to send the real negotiators in there so that we can end this economic war that is killing americans so i hope that everyone is thinking about this as we prepare to go to the ballot boxes in november If you want a change, and if you want these kinds of stand in November.

Well, Reverend

Al, immigrants matter, and they are really the heart and economic driver for our economy and our country.

Yep.

An architect of Project 2025, which delineated all of the ways to weaponize the federal government and take from the American people, and he has come into this position, and he does.

He can, he controls the spigot, and what he fails or what he is, um...

This is a dereliction of duty because he knows what his job is, and he is deciding to not obey the law.

He is deciding who gets money and who doesn't, and he can't do that.

He is supposed to administer what Congress approves, and that is why it is dangerous because you are talking about jobs.

You are talking about projects.

Amen

Yep.

An architect of Project 2025, which delineated all of the ways to weaponize the federal government and take from the American people, and he has come into this position, and he does.

He can- he controls the spigot, and what he fails or what he is, um...

This is a dereliction of duty because he knows what his job is, and he is deciding to not obey the law.

He is deciding who gets money and who doesn't, and he can't do that.

He is supposed to administer what Congress approves, and that is why it is dangerous because you are talking about jobs.

You are talking about projects.

Amen

That's what the problem is with Chuck Schumer and all these people around him.

So I definitely believe that principles matter, right, and how you talk about the issues, how you listen matters.

when people are talking to you about their issues is really important.

I believe that people vote, polls don't vote.

And if you are not in the street, really listening to your constituents, you are going to be left behind and probably left out.

I am in my district constantly listening.

And while folks aren't necessarily saying, hey, Congresswoman, or hey, Sidney, because they call me out everywhere.

And they should.

That's what the problem is with Chuck Schumer and all these people around them.

So I definitely believe that principles matter, right? And how you talk about the issues, how you listen matters.

when people are talking to you about their issues is really important.

I believe that people vote, polls don't vote.

And if you are not in the street, really listening to your constituents, you are going to be left behind and probably left out.

I am in my district constantly listening.

And while folks aren't necessarily saying, Hey, Congresswoman, or hey, Sidney, because they call me out everywhere.

And they should.

Uh, do you have a thought on sort of public sector reform and public sector capacity building to be able to do the complex things we have to do?

So, you know, um, I've had so many meetings with folks who are talking about how are we gonna maintain this advantage and what China is doing, and then I bring up people, um, and education, and invariably the conversation goes back to, "Oh, yes, this is why we need more visas, and this is why it's so important that we are, uh, you know, importing, um, this talent, um, from overseas," which is inc- which is very true because the reality is we don't have enough folks here in the United States, um, to fill all of those jobs.

But I always say, "Well, I'm not talking about that." When you talk about public sector, uh, I'm thinking about our education system, and when we have teachers that are afraid to use AI, um, or when we have teachers that, or school systems that are not being invested in or resourced by the same companies that are looking for talent and have decided that instead of investing in this country, they will go someplace else, I think we've missed the mark.

Right

... who also feel like they are being left out of these conversations and, quite frankly, the economic equation, um, that includes AI.

And so we've missed the mark if we tell them, "Hey, don't worry, this robot won't replace you," you know? Because we don't have any evidence to suggest that that robot won't.

Um, once again, complicated conversations, um, and by, by negating or excluding certain sectors- We're sort of s- telling them that they don't matter.

Uh, in which case, I think, you know, we create more problems for ourselves because the warrior base that we have, right, the informed electorate or the informed American community is not as diverse, it's not as strong, and it's not as unified as we need it to be when we then step in to say, "This is our national program or portfolio as it relates to AI, and how we're all going to work together to make sure that we benefit, but that we also, you know, are creating the guardrails necessary to keep us safe and harness this kind of technology."

On what platforms do you think it is important for us to engage both young black voters and the generation before us?

Well, I think we should be on all the platforms talking to all of the young people wherever they are.

I will also add that the most important voice you have is the power of your vote.

And if it wasn't so important, these people would not be working so hard to suppress it, to take it away.

We actually have a president who, rather than voting for a housing bill that would help bring down the cost of housing, He scuttled that because he wants the SAVE Act to be passed.

And the SAVE Act is all about suppressing your right to vote.

So we have to say that on traditional media.

I love how nice you put black selves, because I was going to tell them to get their black behinds out and go do something.

What does that tell you?

Well, first congratulations on your new show and thank you for having me.

Look, we know that 13 American service men and women have died and we have spent an estimated $100 billion.

We've wasted an estimated $100 billion on a war that Americans can't afford.

Look at these gas prices.

And Pete Hegseth is not the one to be showing up to have a conversation with just a few members.

This is why we have hearings, which, oh, by the way, Republicans have refused to hold during the entire time of this war.

What are you hearing from them? What are their actual tangible concerns at this point in the negotiations?

Are you not able to have a conversation? Have you not heard from them about what the plans are for an event of this scale?

Well, remember, ICE and CBP were putting ads on Facebook saying, "We will be at the World Cup.

We will be watching you." Uh, and we haven't gotten any clear direction from Homeland Security about ICE's role in any of these World Cups.

And we do know that this administration is still in their feelings about Los Angeles as a blue city standing up to Donald Trump.

At the end of the day, we should be celebrating these teams and celebrating this sport and not worried if our workers and fans are gonna be snatched up and deported.

Have you heard back? What is it that you hope they would do?

Well, I think this ticket price, uh, these ticket prices are, in technical terms, a hot mess for fans and for cities.

We sent a letter.

It's all knit.

Yes, Donald Trump is mentally and physically unfit and unwell to be the president of the United States.

I think the image of him in that destruction, destruction zone, says it all.

He is—we're dealing with a crumbling economy.

He's got a crumbling credibility within the White House, and he is a crumbling leader.

This is a man who is erratic, is becoming more concerning.

This behavior is escalating.

It said you all are putting the onus on the athletes and like, oh, why should the onus be on the athletes? What else could the CBC be doing? Speak to the strategy here.

That is a dangerous path, and one that should concern every American, regardless of party."

I agree with Sheila.

Um, these are challenging times that we are in, um, in Congress.

It is a dangerous precedent that we're setting.

You don't know if people are, uh, authoring these articles of expulsion because of partisanship, if we're weaponizing this process.

This has only happened six times in the history of Congress with the House of Representatives.

Two of those folks that were expelled were because they supported the Confederacy.

Do you believe he's fit to be FBI director?

Tell me what you see as your role in those congressional hearings.

First and foremost, I'm representing the questions and concerns and demands of my constituents.

So when folks come in, I always try to focus questions on what's happening or not happening in Los Angeles, in my district, etc.

You know, this was about FEMA for me, right? No money coming to Altadena, no money coming to Palisades.

Kristi Noem is over that.

I also see myself as the person who's gonna ask the questions that you want asked.

And it seems like those questions never get asked.

But do you think to the point you've made now that people really understood the thinking behind your line of questioning?

... responded to all of this?

She didn't answer my question.

Um, and ultimately, like I said, it's about judgment.

We are in the middle of a war, um, and we have staff who are at risk.

They're putting their lives at risk, and we need someone who is operating with very clear judgment, right? And you have a situation, there are so many anti-fraternization policies out there in organizations because it can become a problem.

Liability, conflict of interest.

We could be, have someone in a senior position susceptible to blackmail.

Do you guys even have another thing to offer the American people that says, "If we were in charge, this is what we would do"?

Yes

... 'cause I run this enterprise, so we're gonna do it my way." And that's...

People are looking up to her, and these are the same people that are keeping us safe.

So bad decisions.

Shooting people, detaining people, deporting people, US citizens, refugees, people trying to work through their immigration status, and she did the worst of the worst because she shot, had her agents, her agents shot and killed two white people.

That's like the worst of the worst.

Let alone folks that are trying to get their immigration status situated.

moneyFrom the storms, right?

So the congresswoman asks about it, and Kristi Noem pulls the, "I am aghast that you would ask me such questions."

Secretary Noem, at any time during your tenure as director of Department of Homeland Security, have you had sexual relations with Corey Lewandowski?

Time belongs, time belongs to the gentlelady from California, but it'd be nice if you would let her respond.

I will.

I wanna let you know it is about your judgment and decision-making.

It is about the 260,000 employees that work under you that want to make sure that you are giving information and making decisions clearly.

It is about conflict of interest.

It is about a national security risk.