Mm-hmm.

There's no need to jump from 0 to 100.

You know, for example, I definitely emphasize, you know, easy, you know, things such as, you know, the Greek yogurt, adding in berries.

Um, really, really small, um, small recipes, easy recipes like that which can build their confidence and build their excitement to be like, "Hey, you know, I did this really easy, you know, meal for breakfast."

Mm-hmm

... because sometimes, you know, like you said, you know, physicians will, you know, undermine, you know, your, your risk factors.

You know, um, you may physically also may not be obese per se, but you do, you know, have the risk factors for high blood pressure, diabetes, you know, high cholesterol through your family, um, even your lifestyle.

So I would say number one, just knowing what the risk factors are, knowing, you know, um, things that you can do in your daily life to mitigate those risks.