What do you think about that?

I think that's actually really brilliant, Stannis.

It's a way looking at or comparing different broadcasts when we're in this global environment.

a global media environment, I think is a really clever way of identifying different, um, different publics or different audiences for, for different soft power messages.

And what you've done, um, is a very clever way of identifying what an authoritarian politics looks like.

So, so looking at different international audiences, for example, um, at the time in 2014, Putin was not a very popular man in the West, largely because of the 2013 so-called anti-homosexual propaganda law, which sparked protests all over.

I mean, it's really silly protests in my opinion.

I have to say to the listeners, I didn't know.