I didn't really know that

I was so decisive.

It kind of took me by surprise as well because in my personality I can be very vague, you know, as a person and quite sort of like drifting off and dreamy and that kind of thing.

But when it came to design I was just so clear in my mind of what – everything should look like it was quite strange even for me because it's like a whole other side of my personality I didn't know I had yeah no

They're adjacent to the end of the world, but kind of forgivable too, right? Yeah.

Nick and the ankle boot thing is, yeah, he hates them.

He really does hate them.

So, yeah, I don't wear ankle boots.

You were the front row guest instead.

Yeah.

So, um, so I was sitting in the audience and Nick was sitting, I think there was someone in between us, maybe James.

We kind of both kind of did this, like this sort of look over at each other.

And it was sort of this really strange, immediate connection, very strange, like this sort of, we both moved our heads to each other, I think at the same time and kind of You know, it was a strange kind of deja vu or something.

And then after the show, I remember I came back to talk to you and see you and, you know, hang out with you after the show backstage.

And I noticed Nick just leaning against a wall, just sort of looking at me in a way that I've never been looked at before.

you know because just when you were about to launch the vampire's wife your son Arthur who was my godson died in an accident and I remember you saying that you went to bed never expecting to get up again and and then Daisy Lowe contacted you about and asked you to make her address for an event and it somehow saved you um to keep getting up for work? And is it like being two parallel people, one in grief and the other fueled by the same grief to make the most of your creativity?