But how do you process that this man didn't have the same outcome as you, and yet you feel God was so good to you, and he was, but there were so many others that didn't make it? So how do you process that?

That's a great question.

I get asked this question all the time.

And here's why I try to answer it in the way I know best.

God created a good world.

God did not create sin.

God did not create anything that was evil.

So, Sujo, I do want to ask about the post-trauma that you went through, and how long did you go through it, or is it still something that you wake up in the middle of the night and going, did that really happen to me?

So tell me what happened from that point.

So I get back to the stairwell, and again, hundreds, thousands of people on that stairwell.

And that's when I began to see more of these firemen and policemen, one by one, going up.

And that's when all of us that were running down, we moved to one file, allowing these brave men to be going up the other file.

And Janet, 25 years to that day, that's a sight that I will never forget, and we will never forget.

As we are running down, these men making their way up, and we high-fived them, and we patted them on the backs as they were going up, saying, you guys are the real heroes.

God be with you.

What does that conversation sound like around your table?

How long did it take to get from the ei- 81st floor down to the ground in this stairwell with thousands of other people?

Well, it took, felt like it took forever, but actually it took about an hour and 20 minutes to come down 81 floors.

And we passed all these firemen, policemen as we were going down, and they were going up, and we high-fived them, saying, "You guys are the real heroes." But, you know, although it took an hour and 20 minutes for me, but it felt like it, it looked longer.

Time had just stopped still.

But then when I got to the plaza level, I'm still in the building, that's when I see bodies and body parts of people that have jumped out the building.

It was just a picture of destruction.

And then we were told, "Go down one more level.

What was it like for you later when you saw the television footage to better understand what had occurred?

What happens?

So I come down 81 floors, and, uh, before we, we went to the lowest level, we were one level above, uh, the what's called the plaza level, and there's a picture of destruction there.

There's, um, debris from the plane.

There's bodies and body parts.

Um, people were breaking down seeing that, and we were told, "Avoid the scene of death.

Go down one more level and get to the concourse level and get out." So kind of an orderly way, people were being led out, and on that concourse level, you know, there's seven buildings, the World Trade Center complex.

I see these signs that said the South Tower.

Wow.

Tell me about the people that you passed, both going down, but also the first responders, the firemen, going in the other direction, just heading upwards.

Spencer, what was incredible was the best of people were coming out that day.

As I'm running down, my heart is very heavy because I'm trying to reach my wife through my cell phone and cell phones are not working.

My friends were trying to calm me down because they all knew about my wife being in the other tower.

She was four months pregnant and going through a really tough time.

So she was going to be in disability a week from that moment.

So I just felt that if she had made her way into the building, there's no way she's going to come down.

I mean, what do you think about that?

right? What were you doing?

So Marcus, I was on this fax machine and I was talking to a guy in an office in Philadelphia when I hear this incredible explosion and the building shakes violently and everything around us collapses.

Walls are collapsing.

Look up, there's a huge crater.

I can see a picture of twisted steel and cable.

And there's 28 of us in the office, our faces on that carpet.

And I'm thinking, wow, what is going on? But we knew it was a plane, but we thought it was a small commuter plane.

So what do you do now?

He was in the World Trade Center, had actually moved from India to the United States in February 2011. of that year and then when the 9 11 attacks began he was in the north tower of the world trade center in new york city sujo john joining us today here on the meeting house on faith radio i know sujo you are you are asked this first question i know so many times but take us back to that day almost 25 years ago and your experience in the World Trade Center that day.

Thank you, Ben, for having me on your program.

And a big shout out to everyone that's listening to us today.

You know, as we are getting close to 9-11, it's hard to believe that it's been 25 years since the day that changed America forever.

It was truly a defining moment for those that were alive at that moment.

And then for those that were born since then, they studied it in their history classes.

It's one of the biggest tragedies that's happened in America.

Take us through the process, if you would, of how the events of 9-11, almost 25 years ago, actually contributed to the work that you're doing now with You Can Free Us.