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Sue Simpson

TV producer

Oct 29, 2026

28:27
So it's been quite a stunning fall from grace for them.
28:30
A stunning fall.
28:31
It really has been.
28:32
So just a little background here, Jose.
28:35
Two of the brothers, 39-year-old Oren and 40-year-old Tal, were luxury brokers making millions of dollars selling expensive properties in New York and Miami.
28:45
The other brother and twin to Oren, 39-year-old Alon, worked in the family's private security business, but all three of them were well off and they moved in really exclusive social circles.
28:58
In a sentencing memorandum, prosecutors said the brothers exploited their wealth, influence, and connections to target their victims and called them serial rapists.
29:24
But before the judge ruled, she got to hear from several of the brothers' victims.
29:09
So it's been quite a stunning fall from grace for them.
29:12
A stunning fall.
29:13
It really has been.
29:15
So just a little background here, Jose.
29:17
Two of the brothers, 39-year-old Oren and 40-year-old Tal, were luxury brokers making millions of dollars selling expensive properties in New York and Miami.
29:28
The other brother and twin to Oren, 39-year-old Alon, worked in the family's private security business, but all three of them were well off and they moved in really exclusive social circles.
29:40
In a sentencing memorandum, prosecutors said the brothers exploited their wealth, influence, and connections to target their victims and called them serial rapists.
30:07
But before the judge ruled, she got to hear from several of the brothers' victims.

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28:57
Sue, this case grabbed national attention earlier this summer when theories swirled that his death could be racially motivated.
29:05
That's right, Andrea.
29:06
A- after Wells' body was found, the family hired well-known civil rights attorney Ben Crump, who questioned whether his race might have had something to do with his mysterious death.
29:16
The state promised a thorough investigation into what happened to Nolan.
29:20
But until this week, we hadn't heard much.
29:22
Finally, on Monday night, 11 weeks after Nolan's death, the Jackson County District Attorney posted a video statement with the findings of the grand jury investigation.
30:23
So based on what they learned, what do they believe, Sue, happened to Nolan?
30:28
In their report, jurors noted There was an injury on the back of Nolan's head, but they said it was not fatal, and concluded that he'd not been in any physical altercation or argument of any kind.
28:38
Sue, this case grabbed national attention earlier this summer when theories swirled that his death could be racially motivated.
28:45
That's right, Andrea.
28:46
A- after Wells' body was found, the family hired well-known civil rights attorney Ben Crump, who questioned whether his race might have had something to do with his mysterious death.
28:57
The state promised a thorough investigation into what happened to Nolan, but until this week, we hadn't heard much.
29:03
Finally, on Monday night, 11 weeks after Nolan's death, the Jackson County District Attorney posted a video statement with the findings of the grand jury investigation.
30:03
So based on what they learned, what do they believe, Sue, happened to Nolan?
30:08
In their report, jurors noted there was an injury on the back of Nolan's head, but they said it was not fatal and concluded that he'd not been in any physical altercation or argument of any kind.
30:21
In their words, "The position of, the condition of, the time of discovery, and the location of Mr. Wells' body was consistent with drowning," but that wasn't something jurors could say for sure.
29:13
Sue, this case grabbed national attention earlier this summer when theories swirled that his death could be racially motivated.
29:20
That's right, Andrea.
29:22
After Well's body was found, the family hired well-known civil rights attorney Ben Crump, who questioned whether his race might have had something to do with his mysterious death.
29:32
The state promised a thorough investigation into what happened to Nolan, but until this week, we hadn't heard much.
29:38
Finally, on Monday night, 11 weeks after Nolan's death, the Jackson County District Attorney posted a video statement with the findings of the grand jury investigation.
29:48
Let's take a
30:38
So based on what they learned, what do they believe, Sue, happened to Nolan?
30:43
In their report, jurors noted there was an injury on the back of Nolan's head, but they said it was not fatal and concluded that he'd not been in any physical altercation or argument of any kind.
21:55
What did Lindsay's defense attorney have to say in his opening statements?
22:00
Kevin Reddington started by describing Lindsay as a doting mother, someone who adored her children.
22:05
Uh, he described Lindsay's growing struggles with her mental health and her determined but futile efforts to get help.
22:13
He indicated that she was over-medicated, and he said it drove her into psychosis, and he didn't hide his scorn for the prosecution's alleged motive.
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23:32
He was just a happy baby.
23:33
That pain and that grief really brought home to the jury what was lost that day.
23:39
The prosecution also focused on Lindsay's behavior leading up to the murders.
23:43
They asked Patrick to remember some fun family outings, you know, going to a water park, going to the beach, and it all sounded so normal, not what you might expect from somebody, you know, suffering such a, um, a mental health crisis.
10:12
And Sue, that's not the first prosecution witness who has testified that they heard Karen say, "I hit him."
10:17
You're absolutely right, and the defense, of course, maintains that what Karen said was, "Did I hit him?" Or, "Could I have hit him?" That she wasn't making a statement.
10:26
She was asking a question.
10:29
But, you know, if you wanted to simplify this case, Andrea, and boil it down to a few critical points, this would be one.
10:35
How will the jury interpret those few words, that handful of words? McLaughlin also testified that after Karen said, "I hit him," Jen McCabe, who was standing right beside Karen, told her to calm down.
15:18
Did- did- did the jurors visibly react at all?
15:21
You know, the- the thing about these jurors are they really, for me at least, they don't show their emotions.
15:26
They don't show their feelings.
20:07
Yeah, so this week, there was the second part of a hearing about something pretty crucial to the case.
20:14
Right.
20:14
Prosecutors want the judge to exclude the testimony of a, of a defense expert who testified at the first trial.
20:21
She's a retired emergency room doctor.
20:23
Her name is Dr. Marie Russell, and she said that the injuries on John O'Keefe's arm were consistent with dog bites.
20:30
That's critical to the defense case.
23:54
In November, a local man, Richard Allen, was convicted of killing them, and just before Christmas, he was sentenced to a lot of years, Sue.
24:01
A whole lot of years, Andrea.

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