Well, you know, it's important, these things, Tim, it's

important.

But sort of when we regrouped after the meeting and we sort of reflected on how do we feel about this opportunity, our headlines, I guess, would have been, Two very compelling individuals.

Clearly, you don't have to spend long with Alistair and Christian to see the domain knowledge is extraordinary.

So we were very convinced by that.

But also relevant to that was they didn't want to sell their company.

They wanted a mirage investor.

And it's an interesting aspect for our employees, Stuart.