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As part of that we, we also did, we had a flyball box and we did some flyball racing at the time.

And not to the level that Claire would do it now, but it was...

It always seemed great fun.

Um, and my collie liked doing it at the time, and there was a bit of mix and thing of, of agility there.

And with flyball I thought, "This seems, this seems cool." Um, and so we came back to it in about 2020, '21.

Um, a friend of my wife, Steph, she, um...

Yeah