For you.

But I, I had a, I had a small hand to play in that, which was nice because, um, again, um, we wanted to...

We, we had a bit of a Gil and, and Jim Wagner and, uh, and Mark and, and, and myself.

You know, we said, "Look, you know, I mean, you know, we, we've, we've gotta make sure that we're all, uh, agreed." And the design mantra really was game on the ground.

You know, didn't wanna have forced carries if we could help it.

Uh, but Gil put in this bunker on the front and a bunker on the right of the green, and then it was like literally 120, 130 yards, you know, off the, off the forward tees.

And, um, he, uh, he said, "Listen, you know, I mean, uh, you know, the, the, you know, what do you think about this?" And I said, "Pfft." I said, "It's gone off brief, you know what I mean? It's, it's like, you know, it's, it's, you know, it's, uh, shoot or bust, you know what I mean? You're either hitting the green or you're not, you know what I mean? There's no bail out, you know what I mean? Uh, the, the poor player's gonna miss right in the bunker, and then they're gonna have an awful shot from there, staring at the sea on this really tight green." And I said, "Well, uh, well, you know, some stages around you've gotta say to, to the golfer, you know, um, 'You gotta make a shot.'" I said, "I get that." I said, "But the design brief was, you know, to, uh, you know, to have it to be playable for, you know, the average player and, uh, have it be challenging for the, uh, you know, for the, for the good golfer.

Where do you, where, where do you see it going? Why should people come here and s- some of your lesser-known courses?