So.

If you, for those who aren't familiar, the way I think about wildfire response is there's a detection layer, then there's what's called an initial attack layer, and then you'd sort of have like incident management, complex incident management.

which is after the fire has gotten going if you didn't knock it down in an initial attack.

And so detection, it's not a solved problem, but we're getting there, right? There are networks of cameras.

I'm sitting in California where Alert West has great coverage.

Across a lot of the other parts of the American West, there's a company called Pano, called Pano AI that has good coverage, and there's a number of up-and-comers, SenseNet and Dryad and all these companies who are... offer competitive products.

And I think the world is also going towards satellite-based detection, which will get integrated into the camera architectures.

Are you able to speak a little bit about what costs could run? Is this something that is being spoken with with certain HOAs on being able to have an unmanned strike team at their facilities? Absolutely.

Yeah.

I think, you know, it's a, it's a story we've heard too many times in California, and that's a big part of why I'm here and why Seneca exists.

You know, I've spent the last decade and a half as an entrepreneur and doing, doing other things in technology, but over the last few years, it's become, I think, increasingly apparent that building physical things that can solve real-world problems i- we, we need more entrepreneurs like doing this kind of stuff and maybe fewer people building, I don't know, the, the things that are fast to generate financial returns, but-

Mm-hmm.

But when you talk to folks who are really deep, two things become clear.

The first is almost no structure is safe if you have a fire like the Palisade, right? The, the flame lengths are too long.

It's just too dangerous.

The second thing is the holy grail of fire is really how do you get to fires before they become big? And a lot of times, these fires start in places where it's, like, windy roads, they're not near a fire station, they're up in the wild land, and so the only way to get there is through the air.