I know we don't

have two hours today.

No.

Only 45.

I'll date myself.

I'll give you the Reader's Digest version.

So...

much quicker than doing old school, right?

Mm-hmm.

And it's one of those kind of interviews where, you know, you go through and he asked all the hard questions and he asked this kind of fun question at the end, you know, give me five, you know, uses of a pencil.

And of course, I use that to crack some jokes and show them I'm creative and and got the job.

And we've been friends ever since.

And you never know when those friendships are going to kind of kind of come back around.

And it did just kind of speed things up.

Did the dot com thing.

When people ask you, you know, what does Blue Tail do and what's it for? How do you explain it?