What made you choose this career?

choosing it in the first place fell into it really to be honest it was never the grand plan if you like it was that classic although there'd been some personal stuff which I'm sure we'll come to in terms of driving things now back then in school I was I was good at math I was good at numbers so you naturally almost fell into into those things and I actually really liked business studies and history at college but my history teacher was crap my business studies teacher was amazing so It's funny what a teacher can do, really, and the path it takes you on.

So I did accounting at university and then said, I never want to be an accountant.

It's boring.

It's so dry.

It's rubbish.

So went to work in retail for a few years, worked at Game and Toys R Us, which was great for learning skills and managing people, especially as a young 21, 22-year-old trying to boss 40, 56-year-olds around, especially in college.

But where did that all start? Why are you so passionate? Yeah,

Mm-hmm.

Nowadays, a lot of trainees, three years in really struggle with, with a debit and credit.

But there's part of me that's like, "Do y- yeah, you need to know your foundations on, on, on your accounting principles." But then there's part of me that's like, "Do you?" 'Cause if you can, if you know what wrong looks like on a balance sheet, if you know that wages is out when it should be zeroed, and you can ask the machine for support on which way around should I fix it or what is different, then is it as important? So it's an interesting one.

So for me, yeah, the commercial side of things, the problem-solving skills, and the ability just to question and challenge things is, is really important, and kind of try and take decisions for themselves.

But it, yeah, it's the reviewing and understanding things is so different to what it, to what it used to be.

So like, for me, the Hey Monica is creating a much more real assessment of sets of records and, and workings where it's where the differences are and, and how the whole thing fits together to, to make the complete piece rather than just working at, like, sections in isolation.

And that you'd, you'd, you do that in your studies, but it never really happens in, in real life.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Nowadays, a lot of trainees three years in really struggle with, with a debit and credit.

But there's part of me that's like, do y- yeah, you need to know your foundations on, on, on your accounting principles.

But then there's part of me that's like, do you? 'Cause if you can, if you know what wrong looks like on a balance sheet, if you know that wages is out and it should be zeroed, and you can ask the machine for support on which way around should I fix it or what is different, then is it as important? So it's an interesting one.

So for me, yeah, the commercial side of things, the problem-solving skills, and the ability just to question and challenge things is, is really important, and kind of try and take decisions for themselves.

But it, yeah, it's the reviewing and understanding things is so different to what it, to what it used to be.

So like for me, the HeyMonica is creating a much more real assessment of sets of records and, and workings where it's where the differences are and, and how the whole thing fits together to, to make the complete piece rather than just working at, like, sections in isolation.

Mm.