Okay.

But when we work with our investors, we know that we're in for a minimum of three years, probably five years, a three to five to seven-year play.

And so they're gonna have their equity, they're gonna have their cash tied up for that period of time.

However, there will be distributions, there'll be quarterly dividends, and we're gonna buy right and we're gonna add value so that when we do either wanna sell or refinance, they're gonna be able to make profits as well.

We bought an eightplex about, uh, eight years ago here in Phoenix, and it's different all over the country 'cause we don't see this appreciation in Cincinnati, where I own units, as we do in the Phoenix area.

We paid 600,000 for those eight units.

And about four or five years later, uh, they were valued at about 850, 900,000 each.

But, you know, speaking of teaching people, you've taught nationally, internationally, right? And we touched on this a little bit, but why do you, why do so many real estate partnerships fail, do you think?

So can you help explain how the cap rates and what you do to make the value go up in these properties so that you can refinance investors capital out? Or yeah, some people would sell.

Sure, 100%.

So a great question.

So when we say the word cap rate, it actually is short for the word capitalization rate, right? So that's really what it stands for.

And what it does is it allows the real estate investor to compare its return with potential other returns.

So right now, people could be investing in crypto.

They could be investing in gemstones.

How have you been able to keep yourself healthy, your mind right, your family? Have you been able to maintain that as an importance as you went?