So when we see communities protesting data centers today, would, would y'all have opposed those industries back then too, you think, or is there something fundamentally different about data centers? Stewart, I wanna start with you.

I think that's a great question.

I've, I've kind of brought that question up myself because, uh, of our work with petrochemicals spe- uh, specifically.

You know, we, we didn't see this kind of pushback against large scale petrochemical development, and arguably, at least in terms of direct local public health risk, a large scale petrochemical facility is probably worse than a hyperscale data center.

Uh, the, the public health impacts for data centers seem to be more indirect.

They're someone else, right? In terms of, like, gas generation and, and things of that nature.

So the question has come up, like, why is data center, uh... why has this become the issue that has galvanized so much, uh, pushback? And, and I think that there's probably a huge conversation to have there.

Yeah.