Let's talk about it.

Um, it's, it's not a specific memory that I associate it with as much as like a feeling that I associated with.

And I think that might be like a, um, what's the word? Um, It causes me to feel the same thing over and over.

Self-fulfilling thing.

So when I have felt really, really, really, really depressed, a thing that I just have done is drive around with everything in its right place on repeat.

And I think, you know, now I do that.

But I mean, I think the reason for that is in those moments where you're like thinking about the, Oh, what could I have said? What could I have done differently? because of the way the song is structured you can associate and dissociate from it and still not lose much um because the lyrics are just deceptively simple they're so simple yesterday i woke up sucking on lemon like that's like that's i would say 20 of the lyrics right you know Like that's it.

So we've gone back to Mr. Rogers to try to like reset, reset, you know? But talk to me about what this reminds

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I think that the average person i- i- in, in a way that I think is, is healthy, has been given access to a set of skills that they have never had before.

But what I worry about and think about, and really kinda eats me up, is d- if we value this art which is made by a human and spent a lot of years working to learn how to make, and time thinking about how to make, and really pouring your heart and soul into it, and it's taken...

Let's just say it's a painting.

Oh, well no, that, you're totally right.

Like those jobs are going away.

And so if you wanna be a good recording engineer, like I understand that we, we've made it easy to do that at home, but in a big studio, how do you get between, "I know how to do this at home," versus, "I know how to place mics, set up physical compressors, set up physical preamps, um, and run all of this gear and make a good record," right? Because right now those are the jobs in music that I'm seeing go away.