What did you do in the Navy?

Drove ships.

Right.

Captain level? No, no, I kind of left before.

A lot of my mates are still, are driving ships now and senior Navy.

But I just was one of the guys, every day for eight hours a day drove a ship drove a warship and it was great and i was really good at it because i was loud a bit cocky a bit cheeky a bit wacky so you could get away with it and i suppose this is how they maybe we'll back to how i got it um adhd when you're young in my opinion you can mask a lot better because people go he's a bit young he doesn't really know And I think probably when ADHD hit me at Barclays, I was too senior to be a bit wacky and a bit, you know, people and empathetic.

And I think at that level, they wanted me to be more results driven.

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