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[laughs] Um, yeah, let me run with that and, and Sophia, yeah, that was great to hear from you, uh, talking particularly around the law school and particularly around those clinics which I think are really, really important kind of adjunct to, to, to Newcastle.

Yeah.

So look, really I, I will echo you as well.

I think WIL is extremely important.

I think it's one of those ways and mechanisms that we get our students out into the workforce to have that dialogue with what it means to be, um, I guess, in a placement working with industry, working with our business partners, et cetera, which is really important.

And, and when I say dialogue, it is both at the level of the student being there learning what it means to be in a placement, but also, uh, for us as an institution.

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