And

you get to develop those relationships that I think hyper-local journalism in general is really known for, but many outlets are starting to lose.

I was talking to somebody the other day about how sad I am about Zoom and phone call interviews, like just this high volume capacity journalism that we see everywhere in these daily papers, even a lot of the legacy outlets, which were really known for their community reporting, have now just turned into you're writing sometimes three, four, five stories a day, and all you get to do is sit at a desk and make phone calls.

And Thankfully, I've been at outlets and I've been in experiences where that has not always been.

We still have to do some of that.

But I've had the joy and the luck, frankly, of being able to work under old school journalists who have just incredible charisma is maybe not the right word, but the ability to connect with people in person.

And I worked under a photographer that was an award-winning photographer.

so many ideas are born.