Why did Austin get so popular and where did it start? And what did it look like when you moved there first?

Yeah, I mean, so thanks for that.

I'm wearing my Texas shirt today, by the way.

You know, so the story of Austin, right? I mean, Austin's story really is a story of decades in the making, right? I mean, it really is.

I mean, you have to go back, you know, 1995, 1996, 1997, actually even before I was an undergraduate there, right? Um, and you know, its story is frankly, you know, I think its story is quintessential rise of the creative class, Richard Florida from start to finish.

And so, you know, and, and his work has been criticized, um, obviously from, you know, some of the externalities it creates.

And I think Austin's kind of the poster child for that, which is what, you know, Florida, let's just step back and let me frame this up as a professor for a second, right? Please.

Is it even possible to grow a city while keeping the identity and keep the current population happy?