So what's happening with those excess capacity tariffs, and would it lead to them coming out of their corners and duking it out again?

Yeah.

Well, well, look, in, in terms of Henry Gao's analogy about it being a heavyweight title fight, that would be fine.

I'm worried sometimes that it might turn into a steel cage death match.

So let's hope we're not, let's hope we're not [chuckles] heading down that road.

In terms of the, the, the excess industrial capacity tariffs, as best as we can understand, here's the state of play.

So the investigation is still ongoing.

One question I did have, though, was looking again specifically at the summit, for countries that aren't at that table, which is every- everyone else, but who are impacted, can you see any sorts of implications for, I guess, East Asia in particular, but also Australia?