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Steven Anders

Southwest Airlines First Officer and SWAPA Scheduling & Analytics Committee member featured on The SWAPA Number podcast.

Oct 7, 2026

4:12
But before we really dive into that, let's talk about the number of red days in the system and how we might be able to address that.
4:19
There are more red days caused from the large amount of trip drops we've been seeing lately, um, especially from vacation and now training bid.
4:27
That has exasperated the issue, especially on weekends and especially in the junior captain bases as of late.
4:34
Um, all these drops are rolling right into monthly open time, and then they go to ELITT, so that uncovered flying is just really exasperating all these red days.
4:43
Uh, additionally, red eyes with the fourth domicile day are impacting the DTC limit by approximately one to two duties, give or take, just depending on, uh, the base.
4:56
Changing the formula could be considered, as we've discussed previously, to domicile day in that calculation, but it does have an effect, although it's minor.

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speaker_0HOST
10:59
So give me the overview of why things, uh, like line purity seem like a thing of days gone by.
11:06
Yeah.
speaker_0HOST
16:43
And also something you mentioned there was adding bases without penalty, right? Previously, to my recollection, SWAPA has been in favor of adding more domiciles because it increases the amount of turns in two days that you can have in the system without having to get people all the way back across the country, right? So what are the pros and cons there?
17:01
Yeah, great question.
17:02
So when I say without penalty, I meant more of like having swap oversight in the decision making process because it does have a lot of downstream effects.
17:10
We did see in the surveys, the blank sheets that pilots don't think new bases should be opened while pilots are currently displaced because it does exasperate the problem a little bit, just depending on where they add it into the network.
17:24
So we would like to see if the membership wants us to pursue some kind of new base or oversight process that SWAPA has to be involved in in order to make some tweaks as necessary for the vacancies.
17:38
Another thing that affects vacancies that we've discussed with the company recently is contractually, they have to maintain the line average TFP within three of each other, of each base.
17:49
And so the company, whenever they're producing the final production lines, if they have a large enough disparity, they have to balance that scale.

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speaker_3HOST
31:53
How does that flow into the desire for more turns in two days?

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