Why do I want to write with some kid? Yeah, kid, I'm 53 years

old.

Anyway, so that was really interesting, and I didn't know this at the time.

Kim had planned to basically just say, okay, I'll try.

I was supposed to go to Los Angeles for one week and write with him.

And Jeff Kulovic had set all this up.

Yep.

That's pretty wild that he is not musical theory wise.