Yeah.

Well, we learned.

Like anything else, we learned, refined, got tighter, got smarter, and I think we got it now, um, in year four, where it's gonna be our biggest year.

And hopefully- This thing, I believe that as well as produced as this show will be, that it's something that we could take, um, wider.

At the same time, um, I feel like I want everybody to know around the world what Grandmaster Caz looks like and, and to celebrate him and applaud this man for what he's done and, and celebrate Roxanne and celebrate, you know, Melle and, and, and, and the D.O.C. and everybody else who's, you know, had these achievements, these achievements that they've done and contributed so much to their culture that they get a chance to, to, to see their heroes on the, on the platform that they respect.

I think when you do something big and important, not only in hip-hop but in anything, people are gonna emulate it.

People are gonna wanna follow.

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You good, good, stop.

So he's doing this shit.

He plays this shit for me.

I'm like, I go back to Nas, like, "Nas, you gotta do this shit." And I'm like, "If I could rap, it'd be terrible.

If I could rap.

But I can't rap." So I'm like to Nas, "How you not gonna rap over this shit?" [sighs] And you heard that shit.

You heard The Message.

I thought that-

Mm.

And I didn't have a family yet.

I didn't have kids.

I'd already made a lot of money.

I'd already done well.

So I wasn't, like, needing money, and I didn't have, like, a family that was reliant upon me to, like, earn instantly.

If I didn't make that decision at that point in time, I would've never made it at all.

Why don't we build businesses with the artists?