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Steve Rio

Oct 13, 2026

11:27
... actually look like?
11:28
Yeah, that's an awesome question because, um, I think at its, at its core, uh, all psychedelics in some ways are basically a dysregulating experience.
11:36
Like part of the nature of them is dysregulating.
11:38
It's interesting because the, one of the core ideas of a lot of therapeutic modalities is that you only ever bring the person to their threshold of tolerance, and you n- and you never wanna go beyond that.
11:51
And I would say that in our work, we are going well beyond the threshold of tolerance very often.
11:56
Like that's kinda what we do here.
11:58
And um, and so that carries with it a lot of, yeah, considerations that you're, you're raising.

11 MINS LATER

22:56
What does the integration process look like?
MartinHOST
69:43
Right.
69:43
And so it's mostly looking for ways to undermine the progress, which is why some people have these beautiful experiences and then weeks later the mind is so confronted with the potential that it, we could be loved in that way, that it just gets really dark.
69:58
You know, it goes in, all the fear loops start up.
70:00
But, um, that's an aside.
70:02
But so anyway, we've, we do some short filming.
70:04
Once in a while we have guests ask to set up a camera and film, like film their own ceremony in entirety, which in general we are fine with.
70:13
The, um, uh, you know, it's totally fine.

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MartinHOST
112:54
... researchers in Canada are looking at 5-MeO and how Unfold might be contributing to that?

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