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Steve Pool.

Like Katie, we both work at the same company, Sonotype, and we had this fabulous podcast there, which Katie just zero to working in and it became amazing and we just carried it on um but obviously we started we re we created a new brand for it and what i wanted to do with the new one the 10x insights was like well let's just look at anything that makes a difference and help developers whatever whatever job you have it's just like what can we do to make you uh better at that and also just give you interesting information you need to know so much so we'll help you distill some of it down and get some congrats because we have had some amazing people and i'm sure that as we pick it up now that you We're all, once we get over this heat wave, then yeah, let's get some more people.

As Katie says, the hard bit for us is not the talking.

That bit's easy.

It's the editing and production and stuff.

which we agreed what we would do, but we haven't really done enough episodes to prove that it works, was we would rely on the AI tech that came with what we were using to do all the editing and the umming and erring, removing.

Steve, one for