She's like, why do I need to take an x-ray if it's a ligament? Which is a great question, of course, but remind us what we're looking at that could be suggestive of a torn cranial cruciate.

This is a great question for a few reasons.

And your colleague's absolutely right.

We can't see the ligament on x-rays.

So what are we doing here? Well, the earliest things that we will see on these x-rays of these dogs that have this in inflammatory, degenerative processes, we'll see stifle effusion.

So you'll see that compression of that infrapatellar fat pad.

That doesn't mean that the cruciate's torn.

How are you dealing with that? And, you know, what about like OA and any joint?