Where have you found genuine agreements between a certain practice on Western neuroscience, and where do you think people need to be cautious about claims that haven't adequately been supported by evidence? Has your scientific training ever caused you to consider something you once believed from your own practice?

Well, as far as Where Asian healing modalities tend to agree, there are two areas of interest that I think in the next few years we're going to see some profound advances.

One is Western science's ability to measure the electromagnetic fields and other spectrum of energy, but mainly electromagnetic, that radiate from our body.

Several types of devices have been created.

There's one at MIT, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, as I understand.

It's deep in a basement of one of the buildings and they have it shielded with metal walls and things to prevent outside electromagnetic fields and radio waves getting in.

And they measure how far the field radiates from your body.

How does this dynamic develop? And how can two people who love each other still end up being disconnected? How can someone recognize that their stress is affecting their pattern before it turns to a conflict or resentment?

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Um, I-- Basically, you lay on your back and, um, or the person lays on their back, and the person delivering it puts their hands on their belly.

Well, they have many techniques, but this is the basic one, and you s- start rocking back and forth, and that shakes the belly and sloshes the internal organs.

The uterus stays attached, um, because, uh, the broad ligament that women have, wom- uh, women's...

On the sides of their body, there's a lig- a wide sheet that comes down, and the ovaries and the bladder and the uterus attach to that.

Otherwise, they'd collapse to the floor of the pelvis when they stood.

Gotcha.

So talking about your intervention, what happened when you were talking about your wife that made you decide to spend one year in your garage trying to build something that would help her? How did that square your determination to manufacture the machine and your fertility?

Well, that is a major shift in my life, which I, frankly, was never expecting.

Because I worked in research, neuroscience work, and then I left that to start an internet company that ended up doing supply chain and government software.

And when my wife and I tried to get pregnant for five years after we got married and weren't able to, finally we saw a doctor who gave her hormone treatment.

And after... 12 months of that, they were about to stop.

She got pregnant and, you know, we were very happy.

It was a little boy.

yeah.

And then we'll have a look at that.

Sure.

Well, I've definitely had an unusual path.

I would have never in my wildest hallucination thought I'd be doing what I'm doing now.

I guess to go back a long way, my first interest in life I found when I was four or five years old was helping people because a guy got a piece of leaf or something fragment stuck in his eye and I helped him get it out.

And he was, I just enjoyed him being relieved.

He was like, oh, thanks, man.

Mm-hmm.

What happened during that period and how did that experience change the direction of your life?

Well, that experience is something I wouldn't want anybody to have to go through personally.

Wendy and I, after we were married, tried to get pregnant for five years and finally saw a fertility doctor and after a year of hormone therapy, became pregnant.

We had a little boy on the way, but two months before the due date, we visited my mother in a hospital.

She was recovering from an operation, and the lady that was my mother's roommate had an antibiotic-resistant infection, but we didn't know that at the time.

It ended up killing that lady and eight people there, and Wendy went to the Thankfully, she couldn't get out of bed or she would have been exposed also.

But Wendy became extremely ill the next week and got worse and worse and had to go to the hospital.

How can stress and nervous system dysregulation affect intimacy between partners?

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fact, again, I didn't find a study.

Uh, I was just talking with, uh, Dr. Porter a while ago, and he mentioned that a recent study found that an extremely stressful event causes the equivalent of a candy bar of sugar to be dumped into your bloodstream, literally from your liver.

So you get this surge of sugar.

Well, the reason for that is your body's preparing to run or fight, and it needs that energy to run.

The challenge today is We're not running from bears or tigers or fighting other people most of the time.

We're dealing with abstract concepts at work and social pressures.

Um,

So Steve before I just want to really ask you you're basically from your story you really said a lot so I just want to ask you this so you often talk about the body needing a signal to stand down so what happens when the nervous system remains activated for too long?

Well the at least what I've observed, because I've worked with a lot of people that deal with trauma.

Um, uh, if you look at, you know, the current model is you have your fight or flight or your, your sympathetic nervous system.

That's the part of your body that responds, uh, to something that it views as a threat.

And it, uh, you know, if you think you're going to get in a fight, uh, or, uh, animal is attacking or something, you know, basically it causes you to initially feel anger or fear.

It increases your attention and focus visually, but it actually reduces your ability to think creatively a little bit as far as how the brain changes.

It also causes the release of stress hormones, cortisol in particular, that causes your liver to release sugar into your blood to give you energy to run or fight if you need to.

So I just want to quickly ask you, so why is the pelvic floor important? And why do you think it is often overlooked when we have health conversations? Why is the pelvic usually overlooked?

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it will destroy you.

But that's the bad news.

The good news is I've talked to the guys because he knew all the key players.

And here's what you need to do.

You just lay low for three months.

Don't go to any events.

So now, what have you learned about protecting a marriage when you are also business partners dealing with stress, uncertainty and ambitious goals?