And I don't know, what do you think? Do you think he's a prime example of what the young coach is now and maybe what type of coaches are coming through?

Yeah, I went into Derby.

Mel Morris asked me to go in because they'd lost a manager and had Wayne, Liam and a couple of others and they were all doing it together.

And he kind of asked me just to oversee it and look over it and give some input.

I remember first game at Middlesbrough and Wayne was playing at that time.

So Wayne was player manager and Liam was on the side coaching along with Shea Gibb and somebody else.

So yeah, I went in, watched the Middlesbrough game.

But as you say, it's just, you can create a spirit in a team like the one you described.

[upbeat music] First press conference.

"Steve, how does it feel to be the second choice [laughs] of the next England manager?" Whoa.

This is one of the saddest days of my career.

Did you think to yourself, "This is, this is me done with England?" You're letting a nation down.

That's what upset me.

He just had to look at somebody, give you the look, and you went, "Oh, I'm in trouble." He knew what he needed to do to play, yeah? Eric wanted more.

Did he choose to put you through the crucible?

They all did.

Yeah.

These are our principles.

We play forward, we pass forward, we run forward, we think forward all the time.

And if that means playing 4-2-4, 4-4-2, we will play that.

We will play that because that's Manchester United.

Real.

I went, "Phew, wow, that's powerful." And he stuck with it all the way.

Yeah.

and get rid of you.

Yeah.

You know? Yeah.

And what's happened is, and Eric did the same and credit to him.

I mean, there was a lot of battles on that.

training field.

And a lot of, all I want you to do is this, this, this, this, and this, which was, that was Eric's coaching.

How does it work