That's what we're talking about here, right? It is, yes.

It is.

And Thomas, we wouldn't, you know, skepticism, healthy skepticism or otherwise is par for the course here because, you know, we're trying to break several moulds here.

I mean, interestingly, when you work at the scale of the city, all sorts of things become possible that would be impossible otherwise.

And that impossibility is what's permeated so much of design thinking over the last decade.

two, three decades.

So even the kind of, well, the government pursuing the so-called new towns, quite small, dare I say, a small beer, you know, 20,000 homes, it isn't a town in anyone's reckoning.

Off we go.