And yeah, did that carry the whole way through the band for you?

Yeah, that was the idea.

I think certainly that's what made me feel excited about the band when we first started going.

Because, you know, John was at the Royal Art College.

Robin had been at Art College in Edinburgh.

And they were both artists.

And so, you know, they really introduced me to that world of music.

Yeah, so it still feels like...

Great, I'll pass it back to Steven.

Excellent.

And moving on to our next E, we'll go to education.

You can see here, again are the top the fours and fives that's what we pulled from each of the lists of recommendations the full lists are in the draft plan attached to the agenda if you want to read through those as well the the biggest point that I would bring up with education is you may have noticed that on the last slide engineering almost all of those the partners were MSL it was the engineers the the field crews, people building the roads, making those decisions.

Our partner lists get much bigger as we get into education and encouragement.

These are things that we need partners in the community to carry the torch for.

The MPO is a planning organization.

And pedestrians.

there's like there's imperfections there like there's imperfections in your memory there's imperfections in like the way you frame

yeah well right at the start of the book i just say you know um this is my book these are my memories you know be aware i never let the truth get in the way of a good story you know and why should i you know always print the myth yeah you know lawyer for that yeah it's just you know i i i mean Yeah, this is post-truth anyway this whole time, isn't it? So I don't care.

But, you know, yeah, always print the myth, man.

It's so much more exciting.

But, yeah, there are a lot of similarities.

But I suppose the interesting thing with the book is just the guy that was sort of pushing me on to the finish line I was working with called Peter Stoneman.

you know um i thought you know so many times i thought there's there's no more i don't i don't have anything else to say and he said well what about that thing you were talking about the other day what was that and then we'd have a conversation he'd record it then he'd type it up send it to me and i'd go yeah actually that is quite interesting so then i'd write i'd go off and write about that thing and it would lead to other things and so it was he was great because he just kept um I mean, I thought, I remember once I'd signed the book deal, I had a meeting.

do you know if it's Steve Mason, King Biscuit time, be a band? How do you work out what it is?