
Steve Magnus
Performance scientist and bestselling author of Do Hard Things and Win the Inside Game; coach to Olympians and executives.
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Jun 24, 2026
Steve Magness: Rejected by Every Agent, He Sold 80K Copies — A Performance Scientist's Guide To Rejection
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Alice DraperHOST
So if someone is listening and they think, like, that might be me, maybe I'm the person that's not trying because I'm scared of... choking i'm scared of something happening publicly what are some steps that they could take to try um survive i mean thrive not survive

Steve MagnusGUEST
yeah so that's such a good example and such a good framing and i think it actually gives us some useful tools first off before i get to that one i think Think of it as like your brain's kind of like a muscle, right? If we go to the gym and we train the thing, we get better at the thing.

Steve MagnusGUEST
And the same is true when we're looking at facing rejection, facing public failure, humiliation, whatever it is, is if we go into the arena, we step into the arena and say, hey, I'm going to do this thing, knowing that I potentially might fail and knowing that like it might make me look like a failure or what have you, our brain kind of It takes that normally hypersensitive alarm that goes, hey, don't do this.
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Alice DraperHOST
How do you counterbalance not focusing overly on external outcomes? What does that look like for you?