So Steve, thanks for the work you do and welcome.

Awesome.

Okay.

I'm currently involved in a research study with the help of Children's Health Defense, and I think Mary will be on later.

I can see her in the backstage here, which is focused on what I call sudden-onset autism cases, where the kids are developing and progressing normally, and then boom, boom.

the bottom drops out.

They just, like a light switch, they have this onset date where the parents notice this dramatic and lasting change had occurred.

So thanks, Steve.

Oh, uh, mis- misinformation spreaders as in who?

Uh, people like me.

You know, I benefited because I got to do something that I really love doing, which is telling the truth and, uh, educating people on what's going on.

So I, I think I benefited.

I have- Millions of friends, uh, o- uh, throughout the world.

I...

W- when, you know, people stop me, "Can I m- I, uh, can I have a picture with you?" You know, that never happened before.

... and some ulterior motives?

That-

You know, like, where's the study showing that, that if you take the recommended vaccines, that the kids who do that are healthier? Like, y- it's...

I, I can find one family in 20 where there are mixed numbers of kids who are fully unvaccinated and kids who are fully vaccinated, and only in one out of 20 families will the family perceive that the vaccinated kids are healthier.

And it's not just bias, because the people who are in the, uh, who have unvaccinated kids say there's nothing wrong with their kids.

Their kids are all perfect.

They don't have all the, the ear infections, and the, the chronic diseases, and the food allergies, and the list goes on and on, that other kids do.

They're basically...

Thanks, man ... see, I'm sure some of, some in our audience aren't familiar with the backstory, and I wanted to ask both of you, first with Steve, how did you first come across the data that Barry put out there? And then I wanna hear from Barry, how he first heard from you, from Steve.

Poor Arthur dies, but who has

explained to everyone who Arthur is? Arthur doesn't exist.

Arthur is a mythical bass player that they made up.

As you said, they got tired.

Dave and the others, I think, got tired of everyone coming up to them and going, why do you have three guitar players instead of two guitars and a bass player? And they got tired of it.

They wrote a song about it.

And Roddy, I think, is in on the songwriting credits on this.

I went a

What's your assessment? You've been in the weeds on this stuff as, you know, as well.

Yeah.

C- you, you...

Well, you're, you're correct.

I'm really curious as to what sort of flipped you in, into getting to that conclusion, but that's the same conclusion that, um, that I came to after looking at the data, and it has to do, uh, w- with the, um, uh, w- with just basis, basic statistics, um, and odds ratios and so forth.

And so if you give an intervention to a hun- virtually 100% of people, and that intervention has an odds ratio of, say, you know, three to one, uh, for example, of your, you're getting the, um, uh, uh, the condition if you're, uh, you, uh, uh, you're getting autism.

You're, you're three times more likely to get autism if you're vaccinated, for example.

Fair enough

We shouldn't ask these questions"?

Oh.

Well, (laughs) y- you know, science is all about questioning, uh, w- what the facts are and, and we should never be taking things for granted as a scientist.

And so, it's just, uh, really, really important that we look at the data and we find out what the data says, not what people believe.

And for very, for way too long, we've been following what people believe.

And so for example, the belief is that vaccines don't cause autism and yet, um, we have a study that was done by the CDC back in 2004 and w- we have testimony from William Thompson, the CDC scientist who was in charge of that study, saying he was ordered to destroy all the evidence that linked vaccines and autism.

And we're not talking about just regular evidence here.

Like, do they deal with autism the same- the same way we do?