... one way of God ministering to people.

Yep.

And coming off that, so, uh, when was this? Maybe three years ago, roughly so, uh, that our church here, St.

Michael's, is in Highbury, which is a high, uh, Maori population here in Palmerston North.

A lot of gang activity, and roughly, I'm thinking it was three years ago, there was, um, a gang killing.

One gang killed...

Black Power members went and did a drive-by shooting Mongrel Mo- of a Mongrel Mob member.

Wow.