Mm-hmm.

And for those who don't understand what that means is so design thinking and life design is really this focus of looking at your life like a product designer looks at a product.

You put something together, and that product is not a finished product at the beginning.

It has to go through beta testing.

So it goes out into the market.

It is getting, uh, tested and getting feedback from the users.

And then from that feedback, you're able to make some updates to that product.

100%, yeah.