You can kind of elaborate on that

one.

The Stranglers was a little bit of a kind of Brucey bonus because I got a call from the drummer when they were going to tour last year and he said that he'd hurt his hand.

And would I basically learn the set to then be ready if he couldn't play so i was like yeah of course and then got this list of 38 songs and then that went deep into my learning capacity trust me that was like three or four weeks of absolutely just i had i absolutely had to just delve really deep anyway went in with them for four days, which was, um, I'd met him before because the alarm supported him, um, about 10 years before.

So I'd met him and, and, and kind of got to know him a little bit.

And, and they are really, really nice people.

And of course, JJ is just this man mountain of a, a human being, but also as a bass player.

So, I mean, which is interesting because that kind of ties back to something, the next point I was going to ask you is, we touched on this at the beginning, you touched on this at the beginning when you were talking about JJ and Bruce, but when you're in a live setting, I suppose, how much as a drummer do you rely on bass players to stabilise stabilize the beat stabilize the feel and and is there a is is there a is is there a leading dynamic and or how does that kind of how does that change depending on i suppose the band's really